Later he worked to the sports section of the Rádio Comercial, where he stayed more than three years, returned to Rádio Mais and collaborated in the TSF sports programs.
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It started in 1997, when he joined Pedro Ribeiro, José Carlos Malato and Ana Lamy for the morning show at Rádio Comercial; in 2001, Malato and Lamy left, and were replaced by Maria de Vasconcelos.