Formal Conducting studies and mentors include Orien Dalley, and A. Clyde Roller (Interlochen); Robert Fountain, and David Robertson (Oberlin); Haig Yaghjian (Cincinnati Conservatory) and Richard Lert (1964, 1965, 1967; American Symphony Orchestra League; Conductor Institute).
His conducting teachers have included Richard Lert of the American Symphony Orchestra League and Lloy Geisler of the National Symphony and Catholic University of America.
His base of operations during that period was Berlin and he appeared as a guest conductor frequently with the Berlin Philharmonic and the Staatsoper Unter den Linden.
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