In 1998, while playing with the Vacant Andys, he filled in on guitar in New Found Glory, when regular guitarist Chad Gilbert was on tour with his other band, Shai Hulud.
While concentrating on their forthcoming release, Eleventh He Reaches London played alongside acts such as Against Me!, Shai Hulud and The Nation Blue.
Matt Fox (guitar) and Dave Silber (Bass) formed Shai Hulud in 1995 with Damien Moyal on vocals, Jason Lederman on drums, and Oliver Chapoy on guitar.
Shai Hulud (band) | Shai Hulud | Nachman Shai | Shai | Shai Gabso | Shai (band) | Shai Agassi | Le'Shai Maston |
Heavily immersing himself in the local hardcore scene, he produced artwork for the bands Shai Hulud, Indecision, Coalesce, Locked in a Vacancy, Beyond Reason, Zombie Apocalypse and various local record labels and venues.
Chad Gilbert of Shai Hulud and later New Found Glory co-wrote and helped record every song on the album, but he was soon dismissed from Hazen Street by New Found Glory's record label due to a contract dispute.
With George Foster and Dan Hargensheimer deciding to pursue different avenues, Kill Verona enlisted a few guitarists to fill in including Steve V from Shai Hulud, Joe Dufresne from Orange Island and The Chase Scene, and John Ledoux from the band Garrison.
The title makes reference of the albums: Not Without a Fight (New Found Glory), Hearts Once Nourished With Hope and Compassion (Shai Hulud), Stick and Stones (New Found Glory), That Within Blood Ill-Tempered (Shai Hulud), Misanthropy Pure (Shai Hulud) and Nothing Gold Can Stay (New Found Glory).