Elements of the Timar system however can be seen to have their origins in Pre-Islamic antiquity (Ancient Middle Eastern Empires, Rome, Byzantium, and Pre-Islamic Iran).
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Pavle Bakić had a timar, as did his father, and held great estates around Venčac in Šumadija called "Bakić's land".
Pearson and Timar were both members of contemporary music collective New Music Co-op, along with Miguel Frasconi, Paul Hodge and Robert Stevenson.
Pavle had a Turkish timar, as did his father, and was the lord of great estates around Venčac in Šumadija called "Bakić's land".